Proofs...does it really matter..?..

[Invernoso]

When i see a lot of people here giving away really big buffered accounts...does it really matter to ask for ratio proofs, when a guy just received a huge buffered account, and use it for proofs..?..
What do you think..?..

[Andrey]

We can't actually know for sure who's account was in the first place. Maybe if we'd request in the GA rules that the editing would show at least one-two letters in the same area of the username, so we'd know it's the same guy that uses it in different trackers. Random usernames for every tracker is a bit misleading and can be anyone's account or proof for the matter.

[Invernoso]

yes Andrey, that's a good idea, hope some members got that in his GA's..

[Fish]

Well... I've noticed that some people are using screens of buffered accounts they've just gotten... (someone got an acc with 40 gigs up and like 2 down, and just straight away put that into his sig as ratioproof...) which I find kind of rude, as you haven't actually made any effort into making that buffer, and imo that cannot be held as proof, because you really didn't do anything for that account, and therefore it isn't proof of YOUR BT habits... Just my 2 cents, but I also would ask for those links @ pm if I was giving away something that actually mattered....

[xXxCloudxXx]

Yeah good point, i use the same user name across all Private torrent sites, so i guess if you asked for profile links i guess in my case it would be obvious if they are accounts i have done all the seeding.

But that's just me. I guess you could look at a few of their proofs and if some are highly buffered and other are not you could guess that they received a buffered account and are just using that for ratio proof. That's just my thoughts

[kristijan]

Buffered accounts that you get from someone should not be used as proofs because they prove that the person who gave it to you is a good user and can keep a ratio on account, not that you can do it.
Just ask for direct links ;)
As far as usernames on trackers go, using different usernames can later pose some problems if you are trying to get into some better trackers because it can be interpreted as trading.

[mingov]

No one will accuse if you use different username`s or will call you trader.
Having same usernames can cause problem, I have experienced that on my own skin.
Every tracker is in parnership with some other, or have brother/sister :)
So if some idiot that I gave him invite, cheat in some way, they ban the whole tree.. why I have to be banned from their "sister" :)
And other thing, when you gave some buffered invite, its no longer yours so it`s unrelevant if someone post it as there own ratio proof.
That`s almost like you have ex g/f and noone has to have it and show it arround :)
So grow up :)

[kristijan]

i wanted to invite someone to PtN and only one of his proofs was with a different username and he got rejected because there is a possibility of trading.
How is it alright to use already buffered account that you got from a GA as your proof?
Ratio proofs are not used to prove that you are a member at some tracker, they are used to prove that you know how to keep a good ratio and that you know what are you doing. That account would prove that the person who gave it to you knows how to be a good user, not that you now that. Using proofs that aren't yours should be punished by banning from this forum. And in my opinion if somebody is stupid enough to cheat at BitMeTV for example they should be disabled at BitMe.
And comparing account that you give to somebody with ex girlfriend????
You didn't make your ex and did make that stats at tracker and i wouldn't like if somebody used my account's in that manner.
So grow up :rolleyes:

[mingov]

i wanted to invite someone to PtN and only one of his proofs was with a different username and he got rejected because there is a possibility of trading.
How is it alright to use already buffered account that you got from a GA as your proof?
Ratio proofs are not used to prove that you are a member at some tracker, they are used to prove that you know how to keep a good ratio and that you know what are you doing. That account would prove that the person who gave it to you knows how to be a good user, not that you now that. Using proofs that aren't yours should be punished by banning from this forum. And in my opinion if somebody is stupid enough to cheat at BitMeTV for example they should be disabled at BitMe.
And comparing account that you give to somebody with ex girlfriend????
You didn't make your ex and did make that stats at tracker and i wouldn't like if somebody used my account's in that manner.
So grow up :rolleyes:

Nice one my croation friend, you got my joke about ex g/f.. ;)
My opinion is that when you gave high lvl acc/inv. do like some pps here, try to ask for profile links, and if you are not on that tracker, ask some1 to help you out.
If you ask me i will forbid account giveaway, like some trackers has rules to ban ip change e.t.c. that`s invite are what for..

p.s. You will lose from England tommorow ;)

[kristijan]

Ok, we agree about account giveaways and about direct links.
p.s. No, we won't

[sicdrummer18]

But what if someone who got that buffered account, added more to it and there was proof to verify? Just something that popped into my head. I use the same user name for everything except for the last two characters.

[Invernoso]

for me, the proffs with different usernames, are not 100% good proofs...we will never know where he got it...here on TI, active members, at a certain point, just know if a member is good or not, only for being active..we just know that... and if there is any doubt, it can be checked his posts, giveaways, rep's, etc... i can give invites to some active members here without asking anything...
anyway thx for the opinions, keep it goin', and see you soon..

[ramires]

Yes, sometimes i see really buffered accounts and then i see an account that has 30 up 25 down, we think... this is not from the same person....

[Fish]

About those different usernames and what not... I do use quite some usernames on different sites, and they're not too easily distuingished from one an other, for a reason... But, I don't think I have a single username for only one site, so would that be enough proof that it's actually MY account, instead of some that I got off of a giveaway or w/e? I'm personally quite obsessed with security and all that stuff, so I can't see any point in NOT using different username & pw combos everywhere, it's not THAT difficult to remember them, and, most places allow you to try up to 6 logins anyway... You can't be THAT bad at memorizing some letters (and numbers and hopefully some ASCII characters as well...?) ;)

[mingov]

Bagle I agree with all that you said.. but just a friendly advice.. use Roboform m8, I have 100+ logins and that works perfectly for me ;)

p.s. supports all browsers except opera.

[ksauron]

actually i never believe on image based ratio proofs..
i give invites to guys i know and trust ..

and yeah,i ask for direct profile links..and prefer same nicks on trackers..
what have ya got to hide?? :p

[sicdrummer18]

and yeah,i ask for direct profile links..and prefer same nicks on trackers..
what have ya got to hide?? :p

That's a great way to prove that its really that person's account. Main reason why I use the same name for everything I'm a member of, so people know that it's actually me.

[danl1988]

I think they're helpful to ensure that you'll be a good member, keep up a ratio, etc. I think they're especially helpful if you don't know the user, although if it's a user that you somewhat know, it's not that important. In response to ramires' comment, I have a FF account with over 200GB up, SCC with 18GB up, and what with 16GB up. It's all me and all of them were started from scratch, some are just newer than others.

[Jonhyota]

I dont agree for the " if there is a different user name " cause some ppl dont use the same nick for all tracker/forum, think its a security.
For say if its the same personn, just ask a note on the search barre of the tracker with your nick and 10/08/08 (exemple..).

My opinion, the proof its helpfull, but if i have some doubt/suspicious, i ask the profile link, with a PM and some informations on it for to be sure.
Think its good way for check the activity of the member who request invite.

[Raven]

Base on TB uploaded and downloaded. Yeah go that high if you really wanna think screenshots are worth anything. IMO I just would go on trust because the rep system can be manipulated.

[MrMojo]

Well, I for one use a few different names on my tracker sites, I have about 3 total. I don't think it's necessarily a good idea to use the same name on all the sites. I ask for my name in the address bar of the ratio screen shot. As far as the buffered account just being given away and then used as a ratio proof, I think that's being misleading. If you wanna use the account you just got with a buffer on it, let the inviter know the account was given with a buffer. The problem is, if you do that, most inviters will disqualify that proof. Let's face it, we ask for proofs from people to show how responsible they are with their account, a recently acquired account with a buffer on it only shows that the previous user was responsible. Just me 2 cents....