View Full Version : Stop account giveaways!!!!!!!!
NewBoy
11-17-2008, 06:47 AM
For me that is same thing like trading,i mean its not but i will try to explain:
For example we will use ScL...
ScL have realy good IP script(if ip change from country to country that account surely will be disabled),so here is example:
Person X invite person Y on the ScL...And person Y giveaway account to some other member(and in 99.9%that users is from other country),that account will be disabled,and person X will have problem with staff,in best case he will get away with warning,but in most of cases inviters or person X invites will be permamently and forever taken away,and ban didnt excluded...I know many situations like this....On BMTV is same policy....
So if you dont want some tracker DONT APPLY IT FOR IT,and if you got it,and dont like it,contact staff and tell them to disable your account,because that is more fair than to put your inviter in bad situations....
My point is:RESPECT THE PERSON WHO INVITE YOU and dont put him in BAD SITUATIONS
bentomans
11-17-2008, 07:00 AM
RESPECT THE PERSON WHO INVITE YOU and dont put him in BAD SITUATIONS
+1 , I agree with you :)
NewBoy
11-17-2008, 07:37 AM
Tnx mate,i hope that rest of guys will get what i want to say in in this topic:)
Anyway,thank you on your support:thumright:
invitesplease
11-17-2008, 07:46 AM
I really like getting a great account in a give away and it would be hard to say no. But do feel guilty or wierd about using it. Like I am cheating or maybe using someone elses underwear. It doesn't fit quite right. I think this only is a problem when it's a higher level tracker and there's more risk about obtaining another account. So as far as 1 or 2 level trackers no big deal but with higher level trackers your probably right.
NewBoy
11-17-2008, 08:09 AM
And why are you want account for level 1 or 2???On that levels invite can be found even on sites for FASION ART:confused:
invitesplease
11-17-2008, 08:17 AM
I don't understand why you would want to give away a good account even if you don't use it. Unless your are looking for something in return maybe not then but in the future.
You don't have to yell at me I am going to tell my mommy you are mean. LOL
cr157y
11-17-2008, 09:05 AM
I agree with invitesplease, if you have a good account and you don't use it, you will give to some users with low upload speed.
NewBoy
11-17-2008, 05:00 PM
I agree with invitesplease, if you have a good account and you don't use it, you will give to some users with low upload speed.
One more time again:RESPECT THE PERSON WHO INVITE YOU and dont put him in BAD SITUATIONS
And why you want for example ScT if you dont have seed box???Why chase tracker that you want to folow???Everything that you can find on ScT you can alos find on TL,RevTT,Czone,SCC...I dont get it...
If i dont like account,i woulndt make mistake in first step and will not apply for it...Because i repsect the person who want to invite me
Invernoso
11-17-2008, 05:31 PM
i don't giveaway acc's or apply for acc's giveaways long time ago, 100% against that..good issue, NewBoy
gwelsh1
11-17-2008, 10:18 PM
What newboy say is not necessarly factual! because i have gotten accounts in the past and change of ip or country doesn't means the account must get disable! And why should i have more account than i can manage and someonle else may be in great need of it!! I say before i keep the account and let it get prune for inactiveness i rather give it to some one who needs it! And i do respect both inviters and invitess but am just not a mean person! I rather just giving it up! Ever body have the power of choice so let them choose whatever path they want to take!
Nb: There are other constrains i worry about and two of these are when i give an account to somene and then the same person i gave it to gives it away again in there giveaway and 2, giving it to someone who would end up trading my account. And for these reasons, it let me not want to part with the accounts but if the person is creaditable, in that i mean i really know this person and know what they stand for and see the trustworhtyness in the person, that account is theres for sure!
bentomans
11-19-2008, 06:23 AM
well , please make a poll :D
invitesplease
11-19-2008, 06:24 AM
Has NewBoy been burned to many times or something?
I guess we have all have to trust the person we give invites to more than I originally thought. I am glad for the input I recieved from some of NewBoys posts. This have made me think twice about the whole system and I do appreciate it on that point.
NewBoy
11-19-2008, 09:17 AM
Has NewBoy been burned to many times or something?
I guess we have all have to trust the person we give invites to more than I originally thought. I am glad for the input I recieved from some of NewBoys posts. This have made me think twice about the whole system and I do appreciate it on that point.
Yes,NewBoy has been ****ed up realy good...So i talk from my experience...I dont wish no one goes like me,so because of that,i want to protect others...Because i fuceked up my inviter on one site,becuase i invite a cheater and trader,and whole tree was disabeld including my inviter
And becuase of that,i am so ****ed up
NewBoy
11-19-2008, 04:32 PM
well , please make a poll :D
Tnx on idea mate;)
I hope if YES win,that we will see some changes here:D
MassiveK
11-19-2008, 04:49 PM
If there was a choice for depends on tracker then I would choose that. But since there isn't I will have to choose no. I think if you have tried a tracker and don't like it, or no longer use it or whatever then it's a waste to just let the account die when someone else would love it. However, that being said, this is only the case for lower level trackers where you won't get banned for changing IP. If people are going to give away higher trackers at all then I think that the person who originally invited them should have some say. I know that this can't really be the case, but people shouldn't be getting rid of good trackers in the first place, especially places where they have ip scripts and what-not. So yes for giving lower level trackers, no for anything higher. And always respect your inviter. :p
invitesplease
11-19-2008, 09:44 PM
Add a couple more options to the the poll like level 1 and 2 only account give away. It might not matter to you but the members just starting out would love a good account with some spare gigs Especially if you have a slow internet connection or cant leave the computer on all the time. As I said before I would agree with that too.
Voodoodoll
11-19-2008, 10:56 PM
I think that account giveaway is a good think man... But I totally agree with you with the non-low-level trackers !!! Those accounts should NOT BE GIVEN AWAY !!! But for me there were a few low level accounts that I didn't used, didn't liked... anyway, it didn't got wasted or something, I made someone happy...
So if someone has a low-level-tracker account and it wants to give it away, I think it's a good thing. With non-low-level-trackers it's hard... and it's best to keep 'em.
Hope you won't be mad because I kinda contradicted you a little. All the best... It's just my opinion. :D
kretenmiki
12-09-2008, 06:03 PM
Torrent ethics is developing i see :)
Lucifer9999
12-09-2008, 07:06 PM
i think whatever will be decited in this manner no way should be done a discrimination by tracker levels!!!
there must be one rule for all trackers!!
Ocean*2
12-10-2008, 09:26 AM
im building some low level torrents, with a 100gb buffer or so just to give away to the right people, i think thats the main thing dont just give to strangers.
respect needs to be earnt otherwise cheaters and leechers will ruin the torrent sites we love.
ramires
12-10-2008, 05:28 PM
I agree with invitesplease, if you have a good account and you don't use it, you will give to some users with low upload speed.
oh yeah!
I offer an account of level 5 because i didn't use it... and i knew that user would use it...
delysid
12-11-2008, 09:46 AM
I've voted yes. I've never really thought about it but I kind of agree with Newboy. Giving away an account can cause a lot of harm on certain trackers. On the other hand it can be a good thing if it's a tracker that isn't too strict with ip logging -> if someone doesn't really use his rare account he can make someone else happy who will make good use of it.
So I guess it kind of depends :)
spiders96
12-11-2008, 08:15 PM
I'm all for giving away invites. Share it and make the community grow.
KillerBoy
12-12-2008, 08:08 AM
Well,I'm all the way with what you're saying m8,but stopping the whole thing ain't a good idea since it won't stop what will ever happen,I mean this is not a good solution tho! You can stop that by slightly limiting those give aways to the very best members who you think are good trusted human beings,over & above you won't hand out something to some one without being at least quite positive wither he is the right man for the right job or not!
yahav876
01-03-2009, 07:57 AM
what .. no man .. the acc trade is for people that they have not invite .. .
ifkstab
01-03-2009, 10:44 AM
Agree with NewBoy, you could be putting your inviter at risk if the person you give it to is banned and all 3 of the people involved could be labeled cheaters/traders and risk accounts at other trackers. I know some lower level sites don't watch this too closely and if it is an open signup tracker it's not that big of deal.
I understand not wanting an account to die, but sometimes it's the best bet, I recently let 3 or 4 with over 1tb upload die.
Sasha
01-07-2009, 09:28 AM
Hey NB, I want to said you that I propose this in the past, but it wasn`t accepted.... My oppinion is that accounts GA must be NOT ALOW .....
Ti-Fan
01-07-2009, 11:25 AM
i see ur point and i agree with u..up to an extend!
asking to delete the account is also a bit "disrespecting"..
the thing is : " do not ask for an invite if u do not want"
i got some account that i use..:D thats y i say no to account giveaways!:D
as for ScL... i have also seen some account giveaways..
and i do not understand y...
i mean ScL is trying to built a nice, good and trustworthy userbase. And sure u know it before u get it..
So i see no reason to ask for an invite about ScL if u "just want to check it out"
ask for a demonoid if this is what u want ;)
You make a good point. I don't see much of a problem with giving away low-level tracker accounts though. I'm sure that most people started off with low level trackers before they managed to get onto some of the higher level ones. I used my low level trackers heaps before I managed to get invited to higher ones and found myself using the low level ones less and less. I remember giving them away quite some time ago.
To be honest, I've never really thought about how giving accounts away would've affected my inviter and invitee. But now that you mention it, you make a pretty good point as I said before.
EDIT: Oh, and is it really necessary to have 2 threads about this topic?
KillerBoy
01-12-2009, 11:56 AM
To be honest, I've never really thought about how giving accounts away would've affected my inviter and invitee. But now that you mention it, you make a pretty good point as I said before.
Actually,I think it might do more harm than good for both the taker & giver ... let's suppose that the taker is just a piece of sh*t cheater/scammer who might get that old account banned in no time ... or let's say the giver is the cheater,so by giving away his account before getting banned,he had affected the taker badly by not even letting him use the account for quite long time ... so it depends on both sides ... but still it won't harm anybody as long as it's well organized with rules to maintain trust between both parties!
EDIT: Oh, and is it really necessary to have 2 threads about this topic?
Yeah,I thought that too :confused:
PixelEater
01-12-2009, 06:37 PM
This makes a lot of sense anyways.
Actually,I think it might do more harm than good for both the taker & giver ... let's suppose that the taker is just a piece of sh*t cheater/scammer who might get that old account banned in no time ... or let's say the giver is the cheater,so by giving away his account before getting banned,he had affected the taker badly by not even letting him use the account for quite long time ... so it depends on both sides ... but still it won't harm anybody as long as it's well organized with rules to maintain trust between both parties!
You're definitely right, and I agree with you 100%. I suppose when it comes to trading/giving away accounts you've gotta be really careful who you're trading with and organise it really well so that no one gets scammed. There's still some honest people giving/trading accounts so perhaps it shouldn't be stopped completely but users should at least be very precautious when giving/receiving accounts.
xPerfection
01-16-2009, 07:59 AM
no way dude
merlin
01-24-2009, 12:12 PM
This is a good thing to know. Never thought about it but i never gave a thouught to give away one of my used accounts or ask for anyone either. Anyhow good point made! :)
hackvish
01-24-2009, 12:32 PM
nope...not at all
Jim Bucksbury
01-25-2009, 07:27 PM
I'm all for giving away invites. Share it and make the community grow.
I believe the OP was talking about people giving away their *accounts* at trackers, not invites.. without invite giveaways, lots of us would be out in the cold..
JinXy Poo
01-25-2009, 09:59 PM
account giveaways are pretty dumb. Really good chance of a ban
slipknot345
01-26-2009, 04:59 AM
Good said.
gegge
01-26-2009, 11:57 AM
account giveaways are pretty dumb. Really good chance of a ban
you´re right. would never trade one of my accounts^^
I wouldn't get rid of them totally, otherwise nobody will get anywhere in the torrent world. With that being said, I do think people should take some real precautions to make sure they dont end up in trouble for just trying to help the community :)
infrared88
02-01-2009, 09:47 AM
Unless you have the permission of the user who invited you, you should never give your account away. If the user who invited you says it's okay to give your account away then it's fine to me as long as it's not against tracker rules.
I would want the people I've invited to respect what I have given them and not give their accounts away. Because, if they accidentally gave it to a cheater unknowingly... then it's very possible I could get in trouble too for inviting that account.
rizkhan25000
02-01-2009, 10:26 AM
For me that is same thing like trading,i mean its not but i will try to explain:
For example we will use ScL...
ScL have realy good IP script(if ip change from country to country that account surely will be disabled),so here is example:
Person X invite person Y on the ScL...And person Y giveaway account to some other member(and in 99.9%that users is from other country),that account will be disabled,and person X will have problem with staff,in best case he will get away with warning,but in most of cases inviters or person X invites will be permamently and forever taken away,and ban didnt excluded...I know many situations like this....On BMTV is same policy....
So if you dont want some tracker DONT APPLY IT FOR IT,and if you got it,and dont like it,contact staff and tell them to disable your account,because that is more fair than to put your inviter in bad situations....
My point is:RESPECT THE PERSON WHO INVITE YOU and dont put him in BAD SITUATIONS
I have sympathy for you as what happened to you is quite painful. I think what you want to say is that such account giveaway which put someone else in risk should be stopped. I agree with you.
I think it should be stopped in its absolute form i.e. when you are in a position to giveaway the account on your own risk and nobody else: even then it should not be encouraged.
When a site register a member , they are actually trusting a particular person knowing that the person enrolled would be helpful to them.An account is not a property but a deed of trust between the member and the site. Giving away your account is just like breaching that trust as it is not a property which can be traded, sold or giveaway. The results of such giveaway are often undesirable .
I agree with the idea ... it should be only invite giveaways.
sceneman
02-01-2009, 03:15 PM
The same thought, no more accounts giveaways. Just invites!:thumleft:
cj7531
02-15-2009, 03:35 AM
+1
anatolakis
02-15-2009, 03:47 AM
My opinion is that account giveaways can work if you do a wise choice when giving the account to somebody..
There are lot of trusted members in need of an account somewhere they cannot find an invite for.
And you can always get in touch with the guy who invited you to the tracker ,which you want to giveaway ,to ask for permission..
Ozarka
02-15-2009, 01:28 PM
I disagree :eek:
cj7531
02-15-2009, 02:49 PM
i have some accounts for giveaway too, but i'll better let them stay
Master Razor
02-16-2009, 04:48 PM
I don't not agree with this and will never do. Account giveaways are perfect for new users using the private trackers. It is already buffered, higher class, longevity and everything you need. If I had ann acc which I didn't use I would destroy it because someone might use it. There are some trackers with the max nr of users reached, at that point, invites are useless and those acc are more valuable than anything. And another thing.. what about the accounts that are created on free reg. WHAT ABOUT THOSE? How are you going to 'scan' every account and its origin?
Roosevelt
02-19-2009, 06:52 PM
invites = good
accounts = bad
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