View Full Version : Pre-Channels (eg. Pre-Times)
wiseD
02-03-2008, 06:16 AM
Ever wondered how in hell trackers can calculate the pre-times of their content? Well, read this and find out ;)
\\wD
Pre Channels
A pre channel is an IRC channel in which a bot (prebot) announces new topsite warez (pre) releases in real time. Pre channels are generally provided as a convenience to members of the scene, often in conjunction with a topsite. Pre channels are typically private. A screenshot of a prebot announcing warez releases on IRC
Advantages
* Members of a pre channel are notified about new warez releases as they are released. This is of particular benefit to couriers and release groups.
* Pre channels commonly announce when a release is nuked or un-nuked.
* Pre channels provide a search facility that allows users to find out if a release exists, when it was released, and if it has been nuked. This function may also be used by release groups to avoid dupes (duplicates).
* Pre channels are also used for Topsites to measure how fast they received the release, otherwise known as the pretime.
Disadvantages
* Pre channels are often supplied with events from other pre channels, so spam may spread quickly. Many prebots employ elaborate filters to ensure only valid release events are announced.
sdelsole
02-03-2008, 02:42 PM
There is a public pre channel on the same network that ST has its irc channel on.
On irc, connect to /server chav.eu.p2pirc.org:6667 and then join #pre
It is a pre channel so you can see when certain releases come out.
Dreamsearch
02-03-2008, 05:24 PM
I never use irc pre channels but i use pre-sites :-) Doopes.com is the best one i found so far.
InviteMe
02-05-2008, 04:46 AM
will check that out :)
blinkblink
02-05-2008, 11:59 AM
IRC pre-channels are of course the fastest but the pre-sites are more easy to navigate/filter/search. And pre-sites provide also infos about p2p releases, not only from the scene... :)
sdelsole
02-05-2008, 12:05 PM
True...its much easier to open a website then get on irc and into the channels. A lot of people who are into torrents these days don't know about or don't know how to use irc. A few years ago, irc + newsgroups were the only way to go.
mirceandr
02-05-2008, 02:14 PM
ppl should use irc more often
fabiogomes
02-05-2008, 02:53 PM
ppl should use irc more often
thats true and irc is a very good way to make friends and pass
sometime with them.
sdelsole
02-06-2008, 12:09 PM
thats true and irc is a very good way to make friends and pass
sometime with them.
I totally agree. It's real time which really is a nice feature. And also a utility to download on as well.
desperation
02-09-2008, 02:34 AM
good information
Ti-Fan
02-15-2008, 07:09 AM
i am not sure what pre-times are...
could someone explaine?
Ti-Fan
02-24-2008, 04:55 PM
nobody?
sdelsole
02-25-2008, 01:47 PM
i am not sure what pre-times are...
could someone explaine?
My understanding is that when a release is initially released, the time it takes to be uploaded onto a site is considered a pre-time.
For instance, group ABC release a movie on top sites, ftp, etc. The time from when they are uploaded on these to the time it takes them to be uploaded on a specific torrent site is considered the time after pre (or pre-times)
Thus sites with the best pre-times are ones that upload the releases in the quickest times after they have been pre'ed.
Hope this was helpful.
)
aka_katz
02-26-2008, 05:23 AM
As a member of the Scene from late 1999 i can only say be warned from those public Pre channels u never know whos watching.. unless u use BNC [:
Ti-Fan
02-26-2008, 06:13 AM
My understanding is that when a release is initially released, the time it takes to be uploaded onto a site is considered a pre-time.
For instance, group ABC release a movie on top sites, ftp, etc. The time from when they are uploaded on these to the time it takes them to be uploaded on a specific torrent site is considered the time after pre (or pre-times)
Thus sites with the best pre-times are ones that upload the releases in the quickest times after they have been pre'ed.
Hope this was helpful.
)
If you are right yes it was :)
i think i get it!
thank you!
PS: when a groups releases a movie or a "fresh-cracked" game where does it first upload it?
to warez site?right?
aka_katz
02-26-2008, 08:25 AM
sdelsole & Ti-Fan Pre time: lets say i got a CD thats not in stores or is but never rlzed in the scene i rip it upload it to an HQ (HQ=Ftp thats used by a rlz group which from there they fxp to other TopSites into a PRE dir which only a group member can see his own..), From that HQ they send the rlz to how meny topsites they have into pre dir only after that happens and all pre dirs on all topsites are filled we use a software/script and do a command !pre Tiesto-In_The_Mix-2008-RNS then its do auto on all topsites the next command "PRE Tiesto-In_The_Mix-2008-RNS MP3", now that its on the topsites that the group is on its called a PRE from there on u count how long its been Preed. hope u guys got it...
Ti-Fan
02-26-2008, 05:45 PM
so its like how long it is alive on that site-tracker?right?
ty:)
aka_katz
02-27-2008, 03:24 AM
a topsite isnt a tracker. but u get the point.
Ti-Fan
02-27-2008, 03:28 AM
thats why i said "site-tracker" :)
ok..thx!
top sites are major warez sites?
aka_katz
02-27-2008, 03:34 AM
topsites are ftp server whit 10-2gbit speed and linux OS 99% of the time and u got all sections there depends on what the site ops want yeh they have all tho from there all the warez comes out to P2P..
topsites are the main source.
Ti-Fan
02-27-2008, 03:39 AM
10-2gbit??????omg...i want one for seeding:P:P
i guess the location etc of these server is secret right?
aka_katz
02-27-2008, 03:42 AM
u cant seed from them P: locations are all over the world .nl .se .il .uk .cz ..........
Ti-Fan
02-27-2008, 03:50 AM
i can't..but imagine if i could:P
upload= 1 PB and download=who cares..i would dld everything i want! lol :D
thx for these info!
aka_katz
02-27-2008, 03:52 AM
heh yup
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