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D_DKnight
05-24-2009, 07:30 AM
As title says.
Maybe members with like less than 5 posts to be pruned.
Because we seem so elite... until you see that we have over 10,000 members.
And check for last login dates.

And finally... remove us from g00gle's index (More private) and the sign-up link on the main page.

(We got's to look more private)

As Dillsta said, about opening the signups once a week, it should be like one every 6 months, and prevent things like tracker checker form checking the site.

I also have four more ideas.

1. Have a user cap (7777)
2. Cut our invites to 3 (5 per user is too much)
3. New members have to provide some sort of Ratio Proof. (Any really)
4. Answer some simple questions regarding torrents. (We're talking like how do you keep a good ratio) (seeding and freeleech duh)

xXxCloudxXx
05-24-2009, 08:19 PM
Yeah I agree, maybe keep signups open but like once a week for an hour or so.

And definitly prune accounts and remove from googles index.

If we build a safe and private community we may see that members with higher trackers like FTN will feel safer about being a part of this community.

tehNUGE
05-24-2009, 08:21 PM
I agree. We should trim the fat.

PiTzI
05-25-2009, 01:34 AM
My bad...I thought it was going to be a random pruning, so I pressed no...I regret it now as I saw the reasons behind it. I'm in with the ideas!

dtrik1706
05-25-2009, 01:55 AM
yes please remove the google index, limit sinup's and maybe raise ^ the requirements for certain sections. I think it would make for more safety, just my 2 cents

bitmyej
05-25-2009, 01:55 AM
I think there should be pruning but not to make a tracker more "private". When accounts aren't being used to their full potential.. it should be pruned.

possible
05-25-2009, 02:46 AM
i guess so

froggie
05-25-2009, 03:45 AM
I agree with antony. Prune the inactive accounts.

MovieMan
05-25-2009, 03:50 AM
U guys this site isnt elite thats the problem!! This site is for all beginners in the torrent world. To make this site more elite u would have to get rid of all the noobs and then u guys would have barely any members left...Dont get me wrong pruning is a great idea, but do it for the right reasons! If u want to make this site more tighter knit etc...thats fine. Doesnt matter how tight security is here FTN willnever be comfortable here as its a invite forum and all trackers especially FTN despise invite forums. Sorry but this site is a great site for beginners and alot of people in the torrent world know that.. So trying to change that would be a bad idea in my opinion.

Shadow
05-25-2009, 05:07 AM
i second movieman... there are a lot of so called "elite" site out there but they are ****ed up in so many ways..
we really have to set our goal straight at this point since this issue has arise.we need a path to be able to reach our mission.. do we have any?
anyway I only see 2 paths
first is more relax and friendly :
to continue what we started.. let noobs come in and we educate them..and so on.(I got my first invite here in TI, bitgamer or ipt im not sure but I learned a lot from that tracker.)
the 2nd is a strict and invite only forum,like some forum out there..should I name some?lol
i know you all get what i mean.

kristijan
05-25-2009, 06:34 AM
like movieman said, this is a nice beginners site and this was my first invite forum and is still one of just 2 forums i'm active at. maybe just prune inactive accounts but because they only waste space here, not to make this an elite site. leave it open and let the n00bs in, everybody needs a place to start and that is what TI does best :).

MovieMan
05-25-2009, 06:39 AM
not to make this an elite site. leave it open and let the n00bs in, everybody needs a place to start and that is what TI does best
exactly!! perfectly said kristijan

metor
05-25-2009, 08:13 AM
i agree

D_DKnight
05-26-2009, 08:44 AM
I get where you guys are coming at, but if we really want to educate the n00bs, we could make some parts of the forum public, and the rest private (Like having two sites, a 'normal' site and the site where we all are.)

But I know where you are coming from.
But still, we should prune the inactive accounts (All in favor say I)

I'm not trying to say we should become like 'those' forums and/or trackers (yes, U*-*, I'm looking at you), but maybe a bit harder to get into, like Demonoid (But not THAT easy).

It's just so that n00b 101 doesn't go into the forums.
And there are other tracker sites for nubs (lower than n00bs), like that one that has so many members and is no unorganized...

Omega
05-26-2009, 12:56 PM
I'm not trying to say we should become like 'those' forums and/or trackers (yes, U*-*, I'm looking at you), but maybe a bit harder to get into, like Demonoid (But not THAT easy).



That's exactly what I was thinking. Trust me, we will never become an FTN or U*-*.

That's why right now signups are closed for most of the time but there are still a few days when it will be open.

froggie
05-26-2009, 05:33 PM
not to make this an elite site. leave it open and let the n00bs in, everybody needs a place to start and that is what TI does best
exactly!! perfectly said kristijan

But we won't necessarily lose that by bettering the site. ANOTHER snobbish elite site is definitely NOT needed. But it doesn't hurt to make it a little harder to get into certain invite forums here. It helps the noobs learn more before they get their next best invite and appreciate it more when they do, everyone gains by it. And everyone has that next great invite they are looking for and we are all learning as we progress to that next level. Making it a little harder, I think that is a good idea.

D_DKnight
05-27-2009, 05:25 AM
Here we go :)
Omega has finally entered the conversation.
So, can we at least have a user cap?

taupact
05-27-2009, 10:09 AM
Why try to fix something that isn't broken?

I have seen time and time again on different sites trying to change things to be more 'exclusive' but in the end it boils down to 2 things members and contributions in order to keep the site running.

If you try and tweak and eek it so much people will just move on to other sites and take their contributions with them and what do you have left, a bunch of senior.elite and moderator members talking amongst themselves.

TI has built the reputation where newbies come and discover for themselves what its like to progress in the torrent community. Shutting the doors will soon lose all that.

My 2 cents.

Joao ricardo
05-27-2009, 10:10 AM
not to make this an elite site. leave it open and let the n00bs in, everybody needs a place to start and that is what TI does best
exactly!! perfectly said kristijan

I cant agree more

I do not think we need to hinder access to the forums, we have mechanisms such as statistics and rep to see if the user should call the invite

D_DKnight
05-28-2009, 01:44 AM
I cant agree more

I do not think we need to hinder access to the forums, we have mechanisms such as statistics and rep to see if the user should call the invite

Hmm...
leave it open, that's not a good idea (You know that 'other' torrent site, FST (are we even allowed to say it's name)

But refer to the first post.

BTW, we don't have to as said throughout this thread, become U*-* Style.

nullStar
05-31-2009, 10:55 PM
I think this is a great idea. I like the idea of sites like this being difficult to get into just like any decent tracker is wonderful. It would also help to moderate the forum on the account that it would keep a lot of unwanted users from crawling about. =)

ADRIANORSR
06-13-2009, 04:35 AM
I think there should be pruning but not to make a tracker more "private". When accounts aren't being used to their full potential

ksauron
06-22-2009, 05:29 AM
U guys this site isnt elite thats the problem!! This site is for all beginners in the torrent world. To make this site more elite u would have to get rid of all the noobs and then u guys would have barely any members left...Dont get me wrong pruning is a great idea, but do it for the right reasons! If u want to make this site more tighter knit etc...thats fine. Doesnt matter how tight security is here FTN willnever be comfortable here as its a invite forum and all trackers especially FTN despise invite forums. Sorry but this site is a great site for beginners and alot of people in the torrent world know that.. So trying to change that would be a bad idea in my opinion.

+1 well said.
This site is for newbs to start off..this is the place most of us started out from.
To try and make it 1337 would be a dumbass move. Period.

Envy
06-22-2009, 05:38 AM
Well i wouldnt say we need an extreme prune - but just clean out on the 0 posters & persons with high inactivity perioed (2-3 months ..?).

We dont want this to end up like "I-Z" would we? :P

D_DKnight
06-23-2009, 03:42 AM
OK, OK, lets do a prune a bit like this.

1. Users with 0 posts.
2. Users not logged in in the past 3+months.
3. An active pruner that prunes INVITES (not accounts) for being inactive AFTER the initial pruning (No loss to user, but they aren't allowed to give out invites).
4. A limit of like 4 invites per account (Maybe Omega can just give you more invites when you run out)
5. A pruning every 8 months.(That's a long time)
This sounds much better.

Tempest
06-23-2009, 05:14 AM
As a new member my prospective is that the OP is right, i'am very glad to be here and joined via an affilates promotion, but i would very much like to see this place become more secure.

Slav
06-23-2009, 06:44 AM
Why try to fix something that isn't broken?

I have seen time and time again on different sites trying to change things to be more 'exclusive' but in the end it boils down to 2 things members and contributions in order to keep the site running.

If you try and tweak and eek it so much people will just move on to other sites and take their contributions with them and what do you have left, a bunch of senior.elite and moderator members talking amongst themselves.

TI has built the reputation where newbies come and discover for themselves what its like to progress in the torrent community. Shutting the doors will soon lose all that.

I have to disagree with you mate. Firstly, what's wrong with trying to improve something that is lacking? Sure, TI is fine as it is but there still is a fair bit of room for improvement.

Problem is, there's so many new users here that join, spam their way to the required post limit, request invites and never return. Not really contributing anything are they? Sure, you need members and contributions to keep a site running but an imbalance of the 2 isn't going to help much with progress.

People need to keep in mind that it's the users here that are risking their own accounts to give invites to other new users. It's the bunch of "senior, elite and moderator members" that are still providing the invites to new users. And many of these new users never return again (until of course they want more invites). Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of potential great new users here but similarly there's many that will leave as soon as they've got what they want.

I'm not expecting TI to completely shut the doors and make access to the site impossible for everyone else. But simply managing the signups can provide for some nice improvements. What we've got going on with FileHoard at the moment is working quite nicely I think. But anywho, I do think old, inactive accounts should be deleted. Nothing wrong with that.

Tempest
06-23-2009, 07:22 AM
well said slav

torrentsurfer
06-23-2009, 11:32 AM
now i'm here get the pruning started.

Anyway it is a good idea, take a look at other invite sites TPS this has turned elite from just a few members putting in the work to get decent members

Qlix
06-25-2009, 07:38 PM
Yes.
People who just have an account without being active are waste of space.

Addicted
06-26-2009, 03:12 AM
I agree with Qlix ;)

DoMinator
06-26-2009, 02:24 PM
This is an awesome site. It really opened up my eyes and I have learned many new things in my 3-4 months on here. Its very easy to say 'make it more elite' once your in here but then the people on the outside miss out. As far as noobs go this site is like pre school, high school and college all rolled into 1. The longer you are on here the further through the ranks you go. I think if anything could be changed it should be access to the giveaways section. Let all newcomers access the low level giveaways for say 1-2 months, then only let them access the higher level stuff once they have gone for 2 months and given say 10 invites to the lower level stuff themselves. Then limit the high level giveaways they can get to 1 per week for a month. After that (in this time they will demonstrate if they are trustworthy or not) allow them full site access. It seems a lot I know but hopefully it will mean less and less people risk their accounts to people who just don't deserve the trust. Anyway thats my idea good or bad

Tempest
06-26-2009, 06:47 PM
Sounds like a good plan DoMinaTor, it isnt so much that i want to see it become harder for people to join us, its just that i would like some proofs of seeding perhaps adding to the application process to ensure we have (even at the lowest of all trackers) someone who has consistently good practice

iNSPiR3D
07-20-2009, 06:52 PM
How about no invites for any user, they must be earned if staff feels that they deserve some invites to invite friends. 5,000 member user limit is pretty good. New members have to send at least 3 profile links or they're out. This is for our security, and I feel that these are the best rules. Anybody second this?

ainnasr
07-21-2009, 01:03 AM
I a agree with that, it is much better for our security